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THE PODCAST

And What Else? 

Real conversations. Deeper truths. Women remembering who they are.

Some conversations stay on the surface. This isn't one of them. 

FIRST EPISODE COMING IN NOVEMBER

New conversations every other Wednesday.

the question beneath the question

We ask the question after the answer.

You know the moment.

Someone asks you how you are. 

You say, "I'm fine." 

And technically, that might be true. 

But beneath the first answer there is often something else. 

A longing. A fear. a truth you haven't said out loud yet. 

A version of yourself you're trying to understand. 

And What Else? 

That's where our conversations begin.

AND WHAT ELSE?

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what you'll hear here

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real life

body & wellness

spirituality & The Unseen

becoming

relationships

identity

Who are you underneath all the roles you've learned to carry?

The love, resentment, grief, boundaries and belonging that shape us. 

What happens when the woman you were no longer fits?

Intuition. Ritual. Synchronicity. The sacred. And the things we sometimes feel before we have words to explain them.

Hormones, nervous systems, healing and learning to listen when the body whispers before it has to scream.

Work. Motherhood. Aging. Friendship. Desire. Reinvention.

The messy middle.

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Two women. Two lenses.

One deeper conversation.

Identity. Becoming. Relationships. The stories we carry and the questions that help us understand ourselves differently.

Together, we explore the places where those worlds meet: 

No performing. No pretending we have all the answers. Sometimes profound. Sometimes messy. Sometimes hilarious. Always asking... And what else?

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cheryl

Psychology and spirituality.

The nervous system and intuition.

Healing and becoming.

The practical and the magical.

Ritual. Spirituality. Intuition. Healing. The practices and perspectives that invite us to explore what can't always be explained.

Tonya

our first conversation

Episode 01

Where Did I Go? 

What happens when you become so good at being everything to everyone else that you can no longer hear yourself?

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Cheryl & Tonya explore identity, roles, expectations and the quiet moment many women reach when they realize:

I don't know where I went.

COMING IN NOVEMBER
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We go deep. 

We also laugh a lot. 

Because becoming isn't only about healing the hard things. 

It's also about remembering what makes you feel alive.

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the conversation continues

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read the journal

Go deeper into the ideas we're exploring.

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begin the practice

Turn insight into something you can actually work with.

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join the circle

Continue the conversation with other women.

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There is always something else.

Another question.

Another truth.

Another part of you waiting to be heard. 

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